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trelloskilos · Aug 30, 2005, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by Mitsu Bishi

No, EW never used spirit spam, I played against them, I know one of them. They were absolutely against spirit spam, that's also one of the reasons some of them left.

Europe has several good guilds but of course (because of the smaller playerbase) not the depth of the US or Korea. Still I'd say we can compete and if we can hold the favor for about 20%-25% of the time, that would be sufficient enough. At least I'm trying to help as much as possible, won HoH already (not in succession to gain favor though) and will continue to try. If everybody does that, Europe certainly has chances to gain its fair share of UW and Fissure.

Don't get me wrong - I wasn't accusing EW of spirit spamming at all. I've never played them, don't know their tactics, or have any knowledge of their methods.

To be honest, though, in light of the recent success that Europe has been having, I'm inclined to say that a fair number of US teams were spirit spamming, and now that it's been nerfed, a fair percentage of once-dominant HoH contenders have become crippled, and Euro-guilds seem to be quick to take advntage. However, EW doesn't seem to be amongst them.

Yesterday, Europe held favour for a respectable time. Personally, (while not wanting to sneer at the Euro guilds who denied the US and Korea favour during this time), I thought that it was likely that it was just an increase in players in the UK playing GW on a Bank Holiday afternoon, while the US was in Monday morning mode, and Korea was largely asleep. If Europe gain favour on September 5th (Labor Day), I will be very, very very surprised.

Sorry to be so sceptical about Euro teams playing for HoH, but I still think the European playerbase is too small to be able to account for an evenly matched 33% posession of favour with the other two regions.

john little · Aug 30, 2005, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by spondy

If you mean to have a 'happy hour' for UW and FoW it wouldn't work. There'd be so many people cramping ToA it wouldn't be funny, not to mention server spikes.

It'd be much better, going on your idea, if every account had a 'quota'. Everyone has one hour per day to play it, which rolls over to the next day if you don't use your time. If you region wins in HoH you get some more time. To keep the US winning every HoH battle, perhaps give quota rewards to entrants. The quota could instead be for times you may enter UW or FoW. You can enter 3 times each day say, and gain more entry points as your region wins or participates in HoH.

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Originally Posted by john little

The time counter would only count down once you've entered one of the missions, a fixed time hurts casual players and those that are forced to play on servers outside their region (such as Australians f.ex). The timer would be reset each day.

do people actually read posts nowadays

I guess you could have it cumulative over a couple of days... I just don't want UW/Fissure to be 'too easy' to get into, otherwise it loses it's appeal and becomes just another quest just with rarer loot and more XP.

But basically I'm in favour of a positive (you get more if you win) system rather than negative (if you don't win you get nothing) one, how exactly it was implemented wouldn't bother me as much.

Dreamcatcher X · Aug 30, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by Mitsu Bishi

Europe has several good guilds but of course (because of the smaller playerbase) not the depth of the US or Korea. Still I'd say we can compete and if we can hold the favor for about 20%-25% of the time, that would be sufficient enough. At least I'm trying to help as much as possible, won HoH already (not in succession to gain favor though) and will continue to try. If everybody does that, Europe certainly has chances to gain its fair share of UW and Fissure.

Good comments Mitsu. (?Did you know your name means 3 diamonds in japanese?

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I think the current set-up from aNet is very good, although i do agree with a few of the comments about distrubuting Favour more evenly. FoW/ UW should be a privilage and privilages should be earnt. IMO If you PvE all the time with no interest in PvP then why should you be allowed to UW/FoW? It nots difficult to own computer controlled Grifftihs & drakes so why should you enjoy the benefits of greater drops? Contraversial yes, but i think the furnace of sorrows update is for PvE players so there is a UW/FOW type, high level area, for all?

I also agree that Euro server HoH teams are more 'rigid' in their team selection, thats because it's more difficult for Euro teams to earn favour and so many people being annoyed at it.

I personally think its utter crap and that any level of experince should be allowed to play. So much in fact that you can PM me and join in our Guild HoH runs, mostly 8pm GMT onwards. If you need help in anyway in how to HoH, come join our friendly guild group. We have all levels of PvPers from new guys to rank 6+... Promises too that you wont get booted if you do a silly mistake. After all, learning by mistakes is the only way to learn. I'm no PvP master but i consider my skills to be up there and dont have a problem in giving a helping hand to new comers to PvP.

Alternatively just advertise as "New PvP looking for other New players to learn HoH"... You'll be surprised as too how many invites you get for bein honest! And where are you guild members? Surely someone will help you out with a HoH build? This site is also excellent. {OUR guild is open to all players who are mature in nature and friendly, if you missing out on that aspect then pop me a PM}

More often than not i'll boot a 'pre madonna' player shouting 'OMG NOOB you suck!' than someone who is fame 3 and just learning.

My previous posts have be taken out of context. No way should a game instill xenophobia or Racism. However, a little bit of continental competition is healthy! After beating an american guild in the HoH last week was one of the highlights of the game so far... apart from that Gold Perfect 15 always Chaos Axe drop in FoW

Lets see europeans return to the euro servers and give the Americans & Koreans a run for there money

PS... Drops IMO recently has been quite bountiful in UW/FOW, perhaps due to falling numbers in Euro servers and aNet redistrubuting Items... Food for Thought.

Bravo aNet for nerfing spirit spams and invici monks

Kampfkeks · Aug 30, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Let them leave europe. Bunch of lousy traitors.
Will only make the european realm a lot more comfortable with all the not so patient guys leaving for the other realms. Kinda improves the PVE Experience in my opinion.

twicky_kid · Aug 30, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49

this was the reason i was against the opening of the migration option in the first place. if you give people a choice more people will go towards the trend. the trend is set by who has favor. america holds favor for longer and more often than any other server so more people are inclined to migrate to the server that holds favor the most instead of accually trying to win it on their own server.

the whole point of guild wars was to battle people across the globe for a reward. at present state there is no need to battle for when you can just switch.

this imbalance in the game needs to be fixed.

Calrisian Nantos · Aug 31, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Also, I'm curious... You guys who don't do PvP, why don't you?

To me it's all so "frag tag small arena" style stuff,I can easily get my fill for frag tag quick battles in a small bf42 or css map or even unreal 2 for that matter,the main reason I play Guild Wars is because its "kind of" an rpg that I can play without paying monthly

Crush · Aug 31, 2005, 07:55 AM // 07:55

IF Europe has the favour, than it's always veeeery veery late...
I'd like to have it a bit earlier too...

Elfie · Aug 31, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

True,
I forgot to log off last night and when i was logging off at morning in my time 6am (+2GMT)
I saw that we had favor. Funny I was leaving to work.

Pandanslesdents · Aug 31, 2005, 12:32 PM // 12:32

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

this was the reason i was against the opening of the migration option in the first place. if you give people a choice more people will go towards the trend. the trend is set by who has favor. america holds favor for longer and more often than any other server so more people are inclined to migrate to the server that holds favor the most instead of accually trying to win it on their own server.

What a lot of PvP inclined players don't seems to understand is that many PvE players have no interest, I repeat : NO INTEREST in PVP.

They don't want to be coercised into doing PvP fights to access zones that are purely PvE in content.

Oh, and anyone noticed that more and more coreans are also moving to the US servers?

trelloskilos · Aug 31, 2005, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by Pandanslesdents

What a lot of PvP inclined players don't seems to understand is that many PvE players have no interest, I repeat : NO INTEREST in PVP.

They don't want to be coercised into doing PvP fights to access zones that are purely PvE in content.

Oh, and anyone noticed that more and more coreans are also moving to the US servers?

That pretty much sums up my point in a nutshell.

It's not about nationalism, racism, or even just comptetition between three continents.

The HoH/UW & FoW is too closely tied in with PvE. There are people, (myself included) who don't want to be influenced by whetever happens in HoH. They just want to play their game.

Defecting from European servers doesn't make them cowards. They're just displaying their dissatisfaction with the current imbalance of WaW, and going to a place where it affects them less. The only people (it seems) who have a problem with that are your true-blue Americans who can't abide anything that's not within American borders, and Europeans who don't play PvE.

Crush · Aug 31, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by trelloskilos

The HoH/UW & FoW is too closely tied in with PvE. There are people, (myself included) who don't want to be influenced by whetever happens in HoH. They just want to play their game.

well, that's exactly what i think...
however, if fow has to remain so connected with pvp, they should rebalance something... americans can go daily in fow or uw, while europeans that cannot play at night can go once every week or even month....

Crush · Aug 31, 2005, 02:02 PM // 14:02

did someone already post this??

seems like we have still a chance....

Shanaeri Rynale · Aug 31, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Tbh it will take more than cryptic words from a pretend frog. Why dont they just come out with it??

terrordactyl · Aug 31, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40

FOW and UW are pve areas, so I don't think they should open up according to what pvp players are doing. Just make it accessible to people who have finished Hells Precipice I think.

Pandanslesdents · Aug 31, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by Crush

did someone already post this??

seems like we have still a chance....

Well... Hard to guess anything from such cryptic comments.... Maybe the Frog thinks Europe will get better and will hold favor more than the US. Wich I think is doubtfull to happen anytime soon.

Will they add something in the game only for the Europeans players? Doubtfull too. The players from the other regions would not be happy about that.

The Frog is certainly not a pure PvE european player ^_^

Myself, I'm still on the Euro servers. I find enjoyable to be able to play in my native language. I'm giving them up to the end of September to come up with a satisfactory solution for us. After that, I'll have to reconsider my position...

nudave · Aug 31, 2005, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Let's not forget people...America isn't just the USA. Its North, South, and Central America. Yes, most of the people in the American Districts are from the USA. I've seen one too many times people using USA sucks, then someone jumps out, "I DONT COUNT, I'M CANADIAN!" So, I suggest everyone use, America sucks..then we can include the other nations in suckage!

Teufel Eldritch · Aug 31, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by trelloskilos

That pretty much sums up my point in a nutshell.

It's not about nationalism, racism, or even just comptetition between three continents.

The HoH/UW & FoW is too closely tied in with PvE. There are people, (myself included) who don't want to be influenced by whetever happens in HoH. They just want to play their game.

Defecting from European servers doesn't make them cowards. They're just displaying their dissatisfaction with the current imbalance of WaW, and going to a place where it affects them less. The only people (it seems) who have a problem with that are your true-blue Americans who can't abide anything that's not within American borders, and Europeans who don't play PvE.

You know...I was with you right up until I saw the bit about American borders. Enough with the hate already.

Icuradik2 · Aug 31, 2005, 05:09 PM // 17:09

Europe is the best to play in... because they have very few players, they skip to HoH automatically many times. Good Luck finding a decent group though.

Hyper Fire · Aug 31, 2005, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Come Back Europe!!!!please!

Dreamcatcher X · Aug 31, 2005, 05:23 PM // 17:23

The Frog is an all powerful being...

His words hold the truth...

Soon it is Europe that will hold favour...

Upon finding the Frog, it will give Europe a great gift that will turn the tide...

All will be revealed....

errr... i hope! rofl! :P